Ask Anything 2e with the Experts

Thursday, January 9, 2020 @ 10:00am Pacific Time

Join our world-renowned experts to ask anything about your 2e child, in terms of their social, emotional, academic or behavioral development. Dr. Dan Peters is the executive director and clinical neuropsychologist at the Summit Center. Dr. Susan Baum is the director of the 2e Center at Bridges Academy and 2e educational expert.

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1I would love to hear more on these 3 topics. 1. Suggestions on how to motivate a child to learn? Preferably, other than follow the child's interests' and build learning around that topic. 2. Ways to combat/deal with perfectionism for highly gifted children. 3. Tools to teach children how to self-advocate in the classroom (with their teachers) for more challenging work. I am also wondering whether there is a resource somewhere that lists all (or most) summer camps opportunities for HG kids.
2My 16 year old 2E son has dysgraphia/poor EF & written output. We are at our 3rd high school, a Big Picture Learning school, which he chose because It alternates 3 days of classes with 2 days of internship. Fall grades just came & we were blindsided (failed 2 classes, no A’s, 2.0 gpa). No warning from the school, who never tried any interventions or 504 recommendations. He resists all help from us or tutors we’ve offered. Scored top 1% on PSAT with no prep so he is capable. What can/should we do now?
3When is the ideal age for an executive function coach? Am I correct that a deficit becomes most problematic in middle/high school. I KNOW it will be (and already is) an issue for my son, though as yet in 2nd grade, we have not bumped into too many unmet school expectations in this regard. I hate to wait until it becomes a big problem before “bringing in the professional”. But, he may be too immature for it now, at 8?
4Hi, I think that both of your presentations over the last two years have been fantastic. What I would like to know is if you know of any schools within the UK that have the same methodology as Bridges? And specialists within the UK that share Dr. Dans views.
5How I would LOVE for there to be a school like Bridges in our neck of the woods, but alas. Any suggestions on how a parent can best navigate and advocate for their kiddo in the public school sphere? How can we get the schools to focus less on the quirks and more on the brightness? It seems like when you have a B&Q kiddo, at least in our experience, the focus is all on the "negatives" or making excuses to not provide gifted services.
6I have a smart, but scattered, 2nd grader. About once or twice each week, she’ll say something and insist seconds later that she didn’t say it (or vice versa). She gets really offended if you tell her that you know what you heard (even if the whole family heard it). She truly seems to believe what she’s claiming. Is this possible? I hesitate to assume she’s trying to be difficult. Can this be part of the imaginational OE?
7Our 9 year old son has a 2e learning profile with a diagnosis of dyslexia and ADHD. He has been working with a private tutor twice a week for just over two years with the Barton reading program. This past summer she started teaching him the IEW writing program and focusing more on that since he has tremendous anxiety with writing. Currently he is in the honors math and reading program at school with minimal accommodations. Will the “gap” of what he knows and his potential increase?
8My 7 year old daughter has been going to weekly OT for tactile and auditory sensory processing since just before winter break. What are some things I should look for, at home or in the classroom, that are signs of progress? Winter break seemed to go well, but we were just starting the OT and she has always been more relaxed over break. While the first 2 days have gone great, I feel like I’m waiting for the shoe to drop.
9My son’s second exceptionality is a developmental delay. This makes it hard for him to be in school and stay regulated, so we homeschool for now. I feel uncertain about what to expect with this, whereas there is so much information for ADHD, for example. Any thoughts? When do things gel for these kiddos?
10I'm 'trying' to homeschool my profoundly gifted 9 yo son. Alongside his therapists, he's working through micro-trauma from past schools, self reg, & social skills. He seems to be getting more unmotivated & is having more difficulty with written school work. I'm not sure how hard to push him as he is overwhelmingly sensitive & easily frustrated; thus shuts down and completely withdraws. I feel like I'm losing him. Is it okay to just let him learn on his own terms? & if so, how long is too long?
11Our 7 year old daughter has trouble with sleep mostly getting to sleep but also staying asleep. She goes through seasons but we just started back to school & she’s having a hard time getting & staying asleep. I feel like her mind just won’t shut down. We’ve tried yoga and relaxation before bed, journaling, protein, magnesium, no screen time hour before, routine, red night light, sometimes melatonin (sometimes works). She does well with ~ 10 hrs, with less she’s more easily agitated & frustrated the next day. Ideas?
12Child waking up in the middle of the night with panic attacks.
13I have a 22-yr-old 2e son who was homeschooled & able to follow his areas of strength. As a sophomore in college, he’s in a dept that recognizes his strengths (tech & music). However the general ed classes are a struggle & are bringing his GPA down below the minimum needed to keep his scholarship. Challenges: expanding/organizing his concise thoughts into long papers, loves learning/hates grades. (Neuro-psych eval—ADHD). How to help as parent & what kind of coaching/accommodations should he seek?
14What would you suggest for making a family sabbatical with B&Q teenagers a success? We're planning a whole family intensive language study in Mexico, and see this as an opportunity to explore interests, history, culture, & creative projects. They'll be 16 & 13. We're Americans who have raised our children abroad (Africa) and educated them in an IB school.
15Sensory overexcitability: "Avoidant-restrictive food intake disorder.” My son (14) started refusing to eat vegetables/fruits when he was 5, progressively, to a point he was eating none. If I try to "force" it, he becomes enraged. Trying to "hide" them in some preparation is pointless. What can be done (apart supplements)?
16I am in the town next to Bridges (Sherman Oaks), but my son is too young yet to attend, and is currently homeschooled. Are there any 2E support groups around that I should be aware of, such as co-ops, etc., where we might find some friends? I feel a bit isolated, even in this crowded city!
17Our ASD child (8.5) is an exceptional reader and shared beautiful, complex ideas verbally, but is unable to express them in written work. Could you please talk about dysgraphia in the 2E child and how best to support written language expression? Is something like Orton-Gillingham appropriate for supporting expressive (written) language development? Is accommodation (typing, dictation programs) the best route?
18I'm really struggling to get my son's school to understand the concept that, "easy is hard, but hard is easy." I've been trying to single subject accelerate him in math, but they keep refusing until he "proves what he knows" on the 4th grade work, even though he is so far beyond that. What can I do to get this point across to them?
19On Dec. 2nd a student brought two guns to my daughter’s high school and the police ended up shooting the student. Since then, my daughter has only been able to attend one class a day with a teacher that she has a strong bond with. She also has been unable to do homework. What could the school be doing to help my daughter with the trauma? Also, what types of therapies should we be looking at to help her with the trauma? Her diagnosis is OCD, Anxiety, and Educational Autism. Thank You.
20I would like to know if there is a one stop resource to offer to school district administrators and teachers to help start them on their journey to learning about this particular population. Ideally, the information would be attention grabbing and appeal to them at the onset as a meaningful topic to explore, given that there are so many other issues simultaneously competing for their attention.
21How do you help the bright (& anxiety-prone) kids with Ferrari minds turn off their racing thoughts at night? (11yr. old who's had problems falling asleep since she was 8). Bedtime now looks like: in your room at 8:30, where she reads until 9:30 (later than the adults would like) and then do a Headspace meditation with mom. Often 9:30 is when the Worry Monster & disasters of tomorrow or next week surface. Scheduling "worry time" earlier doesn't seem to help much. Her thoughts often bombard her.
22We recently discovered that our son (14) is pulling out his eyelashes. (Trichotillomania) Along with gifted & ADHD, he has sensory issues. We also suspect anxiety is a trigger for some behaviors. How do we determine if the eyelash pulling is from OCD/Sensory or from Anxiety? He says he can feel his eye lashes poking him. This is new for us. Should we seek professional intervention or process this with him on our own? He is resistant to talking about it. How can we best help him?
23My question is regarding motivation. When we start on something new my son gets very excited, makes great plans, and takes off with a fierce determination to complete whatever project he is starting. Then at some point down the line he just stops. He still wants to complete it, but it is like there is a block that stops him from continuing. He has many projects that he has started, but are left unfinished. What causes this and how do we help him get over the hump?
24We are looking for ideas on how to help our daughter when she acts overly silly when she is uncomfortable in some way. (Age 7). It goes beyond just silly/goofy little kid behavior but is very strange/makes people uncomfortable which she does not notice. We have tried talking to her before she is in that situation and/or suggesting that she take a moment ( swing). however, It’s hard to gently redirect her and she gets very angry/defensive/worse if we suggest more strongly. Any ideas?
25What is educational autism?
26Can you say more about the sensory sensitivity, for example, “it feels like something is poking me.” We have been to doctors to try to clarify these kinds of sensitivities, it does not seem to distinguish the concern. Any other tips for how to help child cope with these sensitivities?
27Do you have any recommendations for balancing the upside of technology in the classroom (the ability to type or to use speech-to-text software rather than manually writing) with the downside of chromebooks and other devices that can be extremely distracting for kids with attention issues? For example, do you know of good software to prevent distraction/opening of multiple windows/etc? Thank you!
28When 2E students miss out on critical time periods to have their profile recognized and their education plans adjusted accordingly, what are the implications? Declining IQ scores (The Matthew Effect)? Creating fodder for the school to prison pipeline and a financial burden on society? Are there any eye opening statistics or studies that would reveal the consequences of delayed or non-existent identification and mitigation of the well known issues that 2E individuals struggle with?
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My question has to do with accepting corrective criticism. I have a 16 year old son who struggles with being taught. For example, he has a new job and the other day he put his apron away before signing out and the manager told him he needs to clock out before putting his stuff away. He called me from the parking lot just sobbing saying that she had yelled at him. He said that everyone there hates him and he wanted to just quit. We talked through it and thankfully he didn't quit. Any ideas though on how to help him not take training quite so personally?
30How do I get in touch with other parents who have a child with visual processing challenges? Are there any therapies or aba methods to improve processing delay? And, how do you evaluate the efficacy of adhd medication over time?
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Is there a spelling program that works for a dysgraphic teen that can pass the weekly spelling test but it never makes it into long term memory. Traditional rote memorization isn't working. Even if he can spell a word correctly when asked, the word is not spelled correctly when he writes because he is thinking about what to say and loses all spelling ability. He wants English spelling to make sense and be logical but there are too many exceptions to the rules. Silent letters drive him crazy because they are illogical. The program that would work for him might be something that approaches spelling from which base language the word comes from rather than a bunch of random rules that don't always apply.
32Helping child with concept of time (hours/day/week/month) - have been doing visual calendars and journal - ASD is part of dx and dysgraphia and apraxia of speech - 10 years old - what other ways can we use to teach time concepts?
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Is there a good program to teach dysgraphic kids how to organize their thoughts for authoring high school or college papers? The usual graphic organizers don't work.
34Dan, how did you learn to write in college?

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4 Comments

  1. VALINDA on January 16, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    Thank you so much, it took me 3 days to get through this talk! I so appreciate the deep knowledge and thoughtfulness from all of the experts!

  2. Janet on January 13, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    Around minute 17, I suddenly found myself on the verge of tears when Dr. Dan was talking about what a big deal it is “for a perfectionist to ask for help because then it means there’s something wrong with me.” (or something close to that)

    No wonder every time I offer what I consider just neutral “helpful feedback” my 11 yr. old nearly instantaneously becomes viscerally enraged. It wasn’t meant in any way as a criticism, but her sensitivity is so high in that regard. Eventually I’ve begun to realize that what I say is seen as a criticism, but I don’t think until Dr. Dan phrased it as he did in this conversation that I understood more fully my daughter’s interpretation of my message. Wow. Thank you for that powerful insight.

    It does make it awfully hard to give feedback (and I’m homeschooling her now, so that means I need to improve my feedback techniques soon!).

    • Debbie Steinberg-Kuntz on January 15, 2020 at 1:31 pm

      J, This could be a great parent-child conversation, asking how you would each like to give and receive feedback. Good luck!

      • Pamela on February 7, 2020 at 9:21 am

        I love these Ask Anything talks! It’s my first one and I learned so much more, nd I thought I already knew a lot. Will keep on watching, please keep them coming! Can’t wait to go back and watch the previous ones. Thanks to all 3 of you!

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