Summit 2019


Thursday, January 31, 2019. Begins at 10 am ET/7 am PT

SESSION 1: Michelle Garcia Winner SLP | The 'How' of Making and Keeping Friends

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Dr. Garcia Winner dives into her Social Thinking system and how to apply it specifically to our 2e kids. She teaches us how to lovingly coach our kids to socially attend, interpret, problem solve, and respond and engage with peers and social groups. She tackles the complexity of tech use and managing our 2e kids’ digital lives with intention and balance. She teaches us how to encourage our child’s innate “inner coach” and support the development of a positive, solution oriented mindset. Her strategies for teaching our kids how to navigate and problem solve social challenges and then engage in meaningful ways is uplifting and hopeful, even for the most shy and introverted 2e kids.

Michelle Garcia WinnerMichelle Garcia Winner, MA, CCC-SLP,is the founder and CEO of Social Thinking, an organization dedicated to teaching social competencies through clinical work, international trainings, award-winning publications and the development of unique treatment strategies. She is a creative therapist, renowned speaker, and prolific author known for her ability to break down and organize abstract social concepts and teach them in concrete ways. Michelle’s work guides professionals and family members around the world on improving social competencies in individuals for greater success in life—socially, academically, and vocationally.She was featured as the therapist in the 2016 Sundance Documentary, Life Animated, and was honored with a Congressional Recognition Award in 2008.



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SESSION 2: Temple Grandin PhD | How to Stretch and Prepare Bright & Quirky Kids for the Future

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Temple shares both her personal and professional strategies for stretching our differently wired kids in order to broaden and build on interests, translating them into necessary life and career skills. She explains how to tackle resistance and fear based rigidity, giving 2e kids a sense of control through choice, playing on interests, and reframing even the most mundane or scary tasks to make them more approachable. She talks about the critical “loving push” that our bright and quirky kids need to build confidence and skills that will translate into a career, while naturally attracting like minded friends and coworkers.

Temple GrandinMary Temple Grandin (born August 29, 1947) is an American professor of animal science at Colorado State University, consultant to the livestock industry on animal behavior, and autism spokesperson. She is one of the first individuals on the autism spectrum to publicly share insights from her personal experience of autism. She invented the "hug box" device to calm those on the autism spectrum. In the 2010 Time 100, an annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world, she was named in the "Heroes" category. She was the subject of the Emmy- and Golden Globe-winning semi-biographical film Temple Grandin.



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SESSION 3: Mike Cantlon | How To Build a Place of Belonging for Bright & Quirky Kids

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Want to know the secret of creating a culture of acceptance and psychological safety for any size group of 2e persons? Take advice from Mike Cantlon who created the residential camp Satori for gifted kids that was founded over 35 years ago and still thrives every summer on a college campus in Washington State. Whether it's a classroom, interest group, or even your own family, learn from Mike what the most important ingredients are for creating a caring and accepting environment where members feel a deep sense of belonging, valued as unique and complex individuals. This is the basis for the culture we are creating in Bright & Quirky's own IdeaLab!

Mike CantlonMike Cantlon has dedicated his career to improving the learning environment of gifted and talented students and to helping people better understand the unique needs of highly capable children. He developed and implemented programs for gifted students in Washington State. He created a residential summer camp for gifted students grades 6-12 called Satori, hosted at Eastern Washington University. In Spokane Public Schools, Cantlon was instrumental in the identification of highly capable students. He has been an adjunct instructor at Eastern Washington University. He has presented at many institutes and symposiums for local colleges and school districts, as well as internationally, helping educators develop and better understand the importance of higher level questioning strategies when teaching gifted students.


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SESSION 4: Scott Barry Kaufman PhD | Exploring Your Bright, Uniquely Wired Child's Gifts

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Dr. Kaufman offers a refreshing reframe of what intelligence truly looks like and how it relates to quirkiness. He shares his thoughts on diagnoses and how we can best frame and use them towards reaching full potential. He shares key insights into building confidence in our 2e kids, from finding their niche to contributing to the world in authentic ways. He speaks about “flow state” as the interconnection of grit, interest, and energy, and how we can encourage our 2e child’s engagement in these ways. He speaks about the power of our admiration, and parts with wisdom for parents that leaves us feeling both motivated and validated.

Scott Barry KaufmanScott Barry Kaufman is a psychologist at Barnard College, Columbia University who is interested in using psychological science to help all kinds of minds live a creative, fulfilling, and meaningful life. Kaufman has over 60 scientific publications on intelligence, creativity, personality, and well-being. In addition to writing the column Beautiful Minds for Scientific American, he also hosts The Psychology Podcast, which was named by Business Insider a podcast that “will change how you think about human behavior.” Kaufman is author and/or editor of 8 books, including Twice Exceptional: Supporting and Educating Bright and Creative Students with Learning Difficulties, Wired to Create: Unravelling the Mysteries of the Creative Mind (with Carolyn Gregoire), Ungifted: Intelligence Redefined, and The Complexity of Greatness: Beyond Talent or Practice. Kaufman received a Ph.D. in cognitive psychology from Yale University, and an M. Phil in experimental psychology from the University of Cambridge under a Gates Cambridge Scholarship.



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  1. Jeff Brandt on February 5, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    Hi Debbie-

    I know year hearing it all of the time, but you are pretty all-around awesome. I know that you have most certainly faced struggles, and yet what shines through is the positive action that makes such a big difference in our world. Thank you so much for all that you do.

    Jeff Brandt
    Missoula, Montana

  2. Seattle Mom on February 4, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    Thank you for this amazing collection of 2e experts. I live in Seattle and had my child at a private gifted elementary school. Yet they never mentioned 2e, never mentioned Satori (several kids took classes at the Robinson Center), and no one discussed social / emotional challenges. I saw a well known therapist / parent coach, took my daughter to a child psychiatrist (who never mentioned academic testing), and later to a DBT clinic. It wasn’t until we got a referral when my child dropped out of a prominent private school to someone who worked in New Orleans and finally found about 2e support. We have shared this with many other parents. We changed to a therapist from Boston who actually met the child where she was – not just forcing a narrow behavior window. Your work is amazing and important in Seattle. It’s just not understood here. So much time and heartbreak could have been avoided had the professionals here been versed in 2e.

  3. Lisa on February 4, 2019 at 8:49 am

    Mike Cantlon & Michelle s insites were very helpful to help my 8yr old son make friends. Thank you!

  4. swan on February 2, 2019 at 9:28 am

    Thank you very much for an abundant resource of wealth. I have learned so much from all the speakers.

  5. Renuka Coghlan on February 2, 2019 at 4:16 am

    Wow, I really enjoyed Mike Canlon’s talk about his work and the Satori camp. His idea of starting up groups locally in the city/ town you live in will help parents support each other. Please work on this.
    What age do they accept children to the camp and is there a support group in Stockholm? Thank you.

  6. Cathryn Bjarnesen on February 1, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    I would love such a camp (like Satori) in New Zealand for our gifted or Bright & Quirky students…… but also include an opportunity for the parents (just like Mike also suggested)

  7. on February 1, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    Very interesting information.

  8. Anna on February 1, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    Love the idea of meeting in person!

  9. Sheryl on February 1, 2019 at 8:52 am

    Love the idea of long weekend “camp” sessions for adults. Support is so needed. Just a thought .. offer breakout sessions for grandparents so we can address supporting our adult children who parent their 2 e kids. Thank you for all that you offer.

  10. Marjan on February 1, 2019 at 1:21 am

    YES!!! Please organise gatherings for and with parents. Space and time for conversations and walks along the river, under the trees. But also with people who can inspire, bring new insides.

  11. therese craft on February 1, 2019 at 1:10 am

    Looking forward to day 5

  12. on January 31, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    Absolutely loving this summit ! I’ve listened to all the talks so far and loved loved michelle’s Talk a lot as there were lots of practical points that I can use from Today. I live in mumbai india and would love to connect with other parents from mumbai who have bright and quirky kids as it’s a very different environment for these kids here in schools .

  13. on January 31, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    Dr. Grandin is always inspiring!

  14. Kathy Johnson on January 31, 2019 at 9:21 pm

    Continues to be so very thought provoking.
    Temple Grandin is amazing and gave such practical ideas!

  15. Jennifer Derham on January 31, 2019 at 9:17 pm

    With a 6yr bright boy on the autism spectrum I loved Temple Grandin. Many practical common sense strategies. Her understanding of this cohort comes through.

  16. Doughty on January 31, 2019 at 9:15 pm

    Wow! It’s been an emotional and empowering four days. Thank you so much for these amazing resources. Looking forward to learning more tomorrow.

  17. Sana on January 31, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    The social skills resonated with me for my 4 year old son so much!
    “2e kids have very high expectations how other people should behave and treat them and a very weak understanding of how others interpret their own behavior”. YES. All of it.
    We have always struggled with social skills in Montessori. He had such a bad experience, where the teacher did not understand him and was not willing to work with him. Poor guy sat in a time out chair all the time. He is in a traditional preschool now with a loving teacher, but still struggles behaviorally at home and school.
    Dr. Ross Greene was amazing in how he explained that these kids are not trying to be like that (defiant, oppositional, impulsive, etc). And that, if they could then they would act differently.
    This summit has been such an eye opener! Also, a little nerve wrecking at the same time because I’m wondering if my son will ever grow out of it. ?. I want to help him as early as possible. Just want to be effective and guide him in the right direction.

  18. Corey & Kristy fielding on January 31, 2019 at 6:24 pm

    Thank you

  19. Karina on January 31, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    Excellent line-up!

  20. Dorys on January 31, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    Definitely nothing like person to person. I agree so much with Mike Cantlon about socialization face to face.

  21. Valerie on January 31, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    I am really enjoying todays talks. Temple Grandin is wonderful. Always love to listen to her talk. Looking forward to the rest of the week.
    Thank you.

  22. CV on January 31, 2019 at 4:21 pm

    I just heard the term 2e a few days ago then stumbled upon this Summit precisely as it was ramping up to air. Perfect timing. I am thrilled with the information provided over the past four days. I have 3 gifted boys ages 8-13; 2 of whom are diagnosed through neuropsych evals with OCD and/or anxiety. Thank you all for your invaluable insight. I am thrilled with the ideas and excited to implement new techniques, new ideas, and tap into new resources immediately. Thank you from my entire family for the benefits which will no doubt flow from these marvelous sessions.

  23. Carlene on January 31, 2019 at 3:59 pm

    Another fantastic round of talks. Thoroughly enjoyed Dr Temple Grandin, loved how she willingly shares her experiences and lends such a wealth of information. Can’t wait for the next set of talks!

  24. Karin on January 31, 2019 at 2:55 pm

    Thank you for sharing all the interesting information world wide!

  25. Anna on January 31, 2019 at 2:22 pm

    Love the idea of meeting in person! I’m in Ireland but could travel?

  26. Rossana on January 31, 2019 at 1:43 pm

    Temple Grandin PhD much wisdom in this talk, wonderful. Greetings from Mexico

  27. Tricia Richardson on January 31, 2019 at 11:46 am

    Thank you so much! I completely agree with Scott re: IEP’s – I have sat in on so many for my 2E students and they are so negatively focused on remediation – we DO need to focus on developing their strengths with enrichment and challenge. I also agree that ALL kids should have access to enrichment opportunities – as the GT teacher, I facilitate small group enrichment for gifted kids only in a pull out model but so often other kids ask me “Why can’t I come with you?” “When are you going to come get me?” It breaks my heart because the work that we are doing can benefit ALL students. Thank you for reassuring me that my beliefs are not revolutionary or crazy, as some of my colleagues would try and have me believe!

  28. Jena on January 31, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Hi! I just finished listening to Mike Cantlon’s talk and I would absolutely love to have a summit in person to meet other people in our community face to face. It think it is a brilliant idea! Thank you, Debbie, for planning out another incredible summit! I “attended” the summit last year and was thinking of not “attending” this year because I felt I couldn’t learn anymore about my 2E kid. Boy was I wrong! My notebook is full!! So many awesome resources!

  29. Jacalyn Brecher on January 31, 2019 at 11:26 am

    Great summit! The end of the interview with Mike Cantlon about Santori, your idea lab and the challenges of balancing online and in-person communities made me wonder if you had thought about interviewing or partnering in some way with Danny Raede of Asperger Experts, who has developed rich virtual and retreat experiences for bright & quirky kids, young adults and parents?

  30. Erin on January 31, 2019 at 10:49 am

    Thank you so much for all the wonderful insights! I am going to take Dr. Kaufman’s suggestion about building self esteem and put it into practice. Right now my 7 year old takes my compliments to heart, but I know there will soon come a time when she will think I’m only giving them because I’m her Mom. Giving her more opportunities to help others and increase her self worth is an amazing idea that will benefit more than just her!

  31. Tricia Richardson on January 31, 2019 at 10:42 am

    This session was fabulous! I am huge fan of Dr. Temple Grandin and I hung on every word! I can’t wait to read her new book! Thank you so much!!

  32. on January 31, 2019 at 10:09 am

    love any time i get to hear Temple Grandin. She has such a powerful and unique perspective.

  33. Joe K on January 31, 2019 at 9:25 am

    I really enjoyed the video by Michelle Garcia Winner, but I am interested in more follow up. She addressed some specific strategies, such as having my child even just having a daily goal of saying “Hi” in the hallway to another child. The direction of the conversation then went off a bit to how to engage because of digital technology. I am interested in hearing what to do next. So once our child does say hi, what next? What do we do when a child is able to “say hi”, but nothing comes next unless we try to facilitate something for them. Does she have any suggestions for what to tell them to do next? How do they actually make friends on their own, and then keep them? Are there books that she recommends to help with specific strategies to do, not just research and theory.

  34. Debbie Steinberg-Kuntz on January 31, 2019 at 7:26 am

    Good morning everyone and welcome to Day 4 of the summit! Let us know what ideas give you a little mind shift or aha moment. We’ve recorded a little overview of today’s talks for you here, along with some brief ‘backstage’ stories about our speakers!

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